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Hi and welcome to Revelation Within On the Go. I'm Heidi Biles-Maepperson, one of your hosts and the owner and lead coach of the Revelation Within Ministry.

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And I'm Christina Motley, your other host, also a Revelation Within coach and Heidi's partner in all things Revelation Within. We are so happy to invite you to join us for this episode of Revelation Within.

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On the go. I was so excited.

Speaker 2: 0:32

I preempted you. You jumped right in. I'm excited too. It's good to be here.

Speaker 1: 0:38

Yay, welcome, welcome, welcome. Today we thought we would start a series that will unfold over the next five weeks that kind of dissects what we are calling the five intentions of spirit led eating. Many people are familiar with our history with thin within and the eight keys to conscious eating, and you've probably, if you're familiar with that, you've heard what we've said about our kind of our evolution from thin within to revelation within and what we're bringing with us and what we're kind of changing around a bit, and one of those things is the five intentions of spirit led eating and so we're going to share with you today. First of all, we're going to share all five again, in case anybody is like what we're going to share all five again in case anybody is like what? Basically, this is from where we sit. It's how people can experience peace with food eating and their bodies, and really God didn't put food on this planet to torment us, right, christina?

Speaker 2: 1:41

No, absolutely not.

Speaker 1: 1:44

But a lot of us have felt like food torments us right?

Speaker 2: 1:47

Yes, for years and years and years, many of us have been dealing with that, that idea, that thought, that feeling, for decades.

Speaker 1: 1:56

Yeah, and at times it felt like a fact, but. But what is really true is God has intended for food to be a delightful gift to fuel our bodies, and so these intentions are, and we've talked a lot about them. But we're going to kind of, like I said, dissect them today and next week and the week after and the week after that, right on. So let's start with the five intentions just off the bat, in full. We have this little preamble Christina's going to read it for us. That kind of sets the stage for just the mentality that we have as we think about food, eating and our bodies.

Speaker 2: 2:37

Okay, here goes. I love this little paragraph. My body is a gift from God to me and is fearfully and wonderfully made in God's image and by his careful and loving design. I am his beautiful masterpiece, his poetry in motion, one of a kind. I look to the Holy Spirit for his wisdom and loving leadership. Therefore, I will honor my God-given body with these intentions.

Speaker 1: 3:06

Yes, and it really is helpful to have this context, because we are masterpieces, our God is amazing and he designed us very specifically. Number one of these intentions is I will busy myself as the Spirit leads until I prayerfully sense a physical hunger signal.

Speaker 2: 3:27

Number two I will invite the Spirit of God into my meal with a heart of gratitude and praise.

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Number three I will choose food in a just right size portion that delights my taste buds and causes my body to feel energized and strong.

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Number four I will create a peaceful eating experience by being present with the food and reducing distractions.

Speaker 1: 3:55

And number five, I will stop eating before my stomach is full, at the peaceful place of just enough. At the peaceful place of just enough. So, as I mentioned, we're going to be addressing each one of these five intentions in the weeks ahead. So today, intention number one is going to get a lion's share of attention. It's going to get all the attention.

Speaker 2: 4:18

It's a good one.

Speaker 1: 4:19

Go ahead and read it again for us, Christina. What's?

Speaker 2: 4:22

number one. I will busy myself as the spirit leads until I prayerfully sense a physical hunger signal.

Speaker 1: 4:30

There is so much in this statement, in this intention, and I just wanted to share a scripture for each of these intentions. So I'm looking at Galatians 5, verse 16 and verse 25. And this is the apostle Paul, of course, writing to the Christian believers. He says but I say, walk by the spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh If we live by the spirit. Let us also keep in step with the spirit, and I feel like this two verses in Galatians 5 really fit this intention, because we're looking most of all, throughout these, all these intentions, to the leadership of the Holy Spirit, and that is the key to these intentions. It is so vital we want to lean into the Lord and his leadership.

Speaker 2: 5:25

Yes, OK. So why? Why this intention? What you know? How did this come about? So, over the years, people have focused on okay, is this hunger? Is this hunger? I'm waiting, I'm waiting. It's taking forever. I don't know what to do with myself. All I can think about is food. We don't obsess. Do we know what to do with myself? All I can think about is food. We don't obsess, do we? I mean, Heidi and I, we get this. Maybe you're thinking, oh my gosh, that's me, you know we, we totally get this. And that's where I was at for a long time. It's like almost waiting for hunger. For me used to be a very unsettled place, a place that wasn't peaceful, a place that was kind of giving me angst. Yeah, me too, yeah, yeah. So we definitely wanted to start with this intention, because we don't want to focus on what we don't want to focus on.

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We want to focus on what's important For me as a kid growing up, being hungry was not a safe place to be.

Speaker 1: 6:27

My parents were extremely controlling and abusive with food, and so I remember one of the very first things when I began to try to eat, waiting first for hunger.

Speaker 1: 6:39

I didn't think about busying myself as God would lead me. I just was like, okay, when am I going to get hungry? When am I going to get hungry? And then, if I got hungry, I'd be terrified because it's like that was almost a built-in response to me from an abusive childhood, and I remember a breakthrough experience when, wow, I can be hungry and I can sit here in this hunger and know that it's a wonderfully, it's a big blessing to be able to be hungry, to know that this is a signal that God has given me that says I need fuel and we'll talk more about that in a moment and nobody is here to abuse me or to ridicule me for my choices or to put me to. I am safe and for me that was huge in freeing me to be able to even want to be hungry ever. You know, it was like I don't think for years I ever felt hunger because I was eating so much.

Speaker 2: 7:40

Me, neither Me neither.

Speaker 1: 7:42

Yeah, we want to get away from this sense of okay, I'm waiting to be hungry, is this it? Is this it? And then some of us we may, because of experiences similar to my own. I've heard many people in our ministry have experienced this. We don't want to fear hunger, for whatever reason. We don't want to fear hunger, and there's a lot of reasons we might fear it not just our upbringing, but our dieting culture. We'll get to that in a minute too, I think.

Speaker 2: 8:10

Yes, well, and for me, growing up, hunger was kind of this weird thing. It was unclear whether it was good or bad. My mom, especially she, was kind of led the run the show and on the one hand, hunger seemed to be really, really important, like when we went out to eat. You know, if you weren't really hungry, somehow you weren't worthy of eating the food, or something Like there was just this real pressure there to be over the top hungry. But on the other hand, there were many, many days In fact. But on the other hand, there were many, many days in fact, most days, where we would watch my mom just binge, just eat and eat and eat and not stop, and so I don't know what did I come out?

Speaker 2: 8:54

I didn't know, I didn't understand. I didn't have a clear understanding that our bodies had signals that we could trust, and so, like I said, we had these extremes as I was being raised and it was confusing. I didn't think about it at the time. None of us think about it at the time. No, no, you know. So many of you listening I'm sure can think back to your childhood and think you know that was kind of off, or I'm not sure what that meant or I was really confused by that with food and eating. You know, as a child there's there's lots of things and of course you know our parents did the best that we could.

Speaker 2: 9:33

I don't um, I don't blame, as far as you know. I mean, I have forgiven, but me too, yes, but and Heidi, I'm so sorry for what happened with you and I know there's many listening who have had similar experiences and it's like, oh my gosh. You know, sometimes life can just be so difficult.

Speaker 1: 9:56

Well, you know, speaking of that, your mom was raised in World War II Germany.

Speaker 2: 10:02

Yes.

Speaker 1: 10:03

You know, tell us about that. And I mean I have to think that impacted the way she handled food and eating and raising two children in the USA when things were fine.

Speaker 2: 10:15

Oh yeah, I mean, and what is so interesting too is that when she came to the United States, you know, after the war and everything I mean, she did not talk about her experiences for like 40 years. Nobody wanted to hear anything about that and she didn't want to share, and so she really kept all of this inside. She really didn't process it, didn't have therapy, didn't talk about it for really until she was in her late 60s, and then she did start talking about it and then she did. If you remember, Heidi, she created with my dad some presentations and talked in some high schools and things like that which I think was very healing for her.

Speaker 2: 10:59

For example, we would sit, my mom and I, and look at photo albums from her past this was one of her favorite things to do with you know the Alzheimer's disease and all of that and she would say look at the family here we are fat and happy. Oh, wow, because that was before the war.

Speaker 1: 11:19

Yes.

Speaker 2: 11:20

And so it was interesting because I also heard her say very negative things about being overweight, and she was very negative about her own body as I was growing up. So she definitely had a conflict there all the time. But then we would look at other pictures in the photo album and she would say oh, look how thin we are here. We're starving.

Speaker 1: 11:41

Oh, my goodness, my goodness, that would affect her and her perception on hunger signals or not, let alone, it probably wouldn't even be a on her radar that she needed to teach her kids about, I would think.

Speaker 2: 11:56

Well, and so what she? What I remember is that growing up she was kind of what we used to call like a health nut. Yeah, you know, she would buy a lot of supplements, like a lot, and there's nothing wrong with supplements, I'm just saying that for her it was kind of an obsession, it was too much. And then she would, you know, jump on these programs that you would see in a magazine or you would see somewhere, and she'd spend a lot of money drinking this, this drink, or eating this or taking these pills, that kind of thing. And we would go to this health food store that was very expensive at the time. It wasn't like it is now with, you know, certain stores that will have different choices, and she would spend a lot of money on certain foods. She wouldn't let us have candy bars or sugary cereal or any of that, but then I mean really almost on a daily basis she would binge and it wasn't, it was on foods that she couldn't have during the war, like bread and butter and cheese.

Speaker 1: 13:01

That makes total sense.

Speaker 2: 13:02

Yeah. So I mean, when I think back with all that she and her family went through, I mean I just have so much compassion and my heart is just broken. I can't even imagine that kind of trauma. Her city, of course, was bombed while she sat in the basement of her apartment building, wow, anyway. So what I know is that I've come out of my childhood and into my teen years and into my 20s with a lot of false beliefs, a lot of lies, a lot of things that just weren't true, thoughts that weren't true about food, about eating, about my body, and certainly God was not anywhere to be found for me in this discussion.

Speaker 1: 13:47

Right. Well, so often, one of the reasons why we wanted to incorporate this intention right at front and center at the top I will busy myself as the spirit leads until I prayerfully sense a physical hunger signal is we want people to understand that, yes, we want to wait until our body gives us a signal that it's time for more fuel, but we don't want to wait around tapping our fingers for it, because doing that kind of exalts food and eating and hunger and all of that, and that's not a peaceful place, like we were saying. And so let's talk about what this means. I will busy myself as the Spirit leads. What is that about?

Speaker 2: 14:30

Well, I love this, heidi, because you're right. God's design is for us to just live our lives according to his plan for us while we wait for hunger. Not to make waiting for hunger the focus, but to make him and what he's calling us to the focus. Is it laundry? Is it going to work? Is it brushing through your kid's hair? Is it, you know, feeding the dog? Is it going to the grocery store, taking care of a loved one?

Speaker 2: 15:01

We all have busy, busy lives and lots of things that we're called to do each and every day, and so all we have to do is Okay, lord, what are you calling me to? Let's do it together, inviting them in. And some of you might be thinking well, but what if I get hungry then, at a time where it's not convenient to eat and that kind of thing? Well, I always have something with me just in case that happens, a little bit of trail mix or something. But over time, you will get into a rhythm that feels good for you most days, and then you can adjust when you're on vacation or your work schedule changes or things like that. But most of us, over time, will get into a rhythm that feels good and natural and peaceful, and we kind of know when that hunger signal is going to come.

Speaker 1: 15:53

Exactly, and just to clarify it isn't busy for the sake of redirecting our attention or for the sake of being busy. This is truly spirit led busyness, meaning that God is calling us to do different things with our lives and with our time, and so we want to be spirit led in all of our living. We don't want to be sitting around waiting for hunger. Ho hum, you know, is this? It Is this. It. Is this it Because we're going to miss something that God's calling us to do, or a person he wants us to be aware of, who needs you know? An encouraging word, maybe? And if it's always about my hunger signal, my food, my eating, my body, my weight, me, me, me, me, me, I'm going to lose an opportunity to live as God's calling me, to live, mindful of others and their needs, and so on.

Speaker 2: 16:44

I was talking with someone the other day who was kind of experiencing this for the first time. She had really stressed about hunger. In the past she had really stressed about waiting and what will I eat and how long will it take, and for the first time she just kind of let that go and lived her life. She's a busy mom of young kids, plenty to do and works, plenty to be called to just kind of started going and was surprised first of all that it took a while for that hunger signal to come. But she was fine with that, she just kept going and going. And then she said how amazing it felt not to be obsessed with that, not to be thinking about it, not to be trying to plan well, I'll have to have this much, but not this, and this is on the good list and this is on the bad list, and all those kind of games that we play in our mind. And she was so relieved. She said it felt amazing to just let all of that go and just be ready for that hunger signal to come at some point. And then when it came, she was very much busy with her kids and it was fine for her to wait a little longer.

Speaker 1: 18:01

Well, that's just it, we won't die. No, and she just If we don't eat the minute we're hungry, we won't die. We said.

Speaker 2: 18:08

Christina, this is so simple. Why has it been so hard?

Speaker 1: 18:12

for me, that's awesome, yeah, and I think the reason why it is so hard for so many of us or complicated, I mean, cause it can be hard no matter how simple it is, but complicated is because of the lies that we have experienced and learned during our dieting years. You know that hunger is bad. You can't be hungry. You're going to go into starvation mode. What If I'm eating? Every time I'm hungry, I'm training my body that hunger is a safe place to be. You make it there and we will get fed.

Speaker 2: 18:46

Exactly. I mean it makes so much sense you know we listen to our other body signals. I mean, does anybody not go to the bathroom all day long because you aren't listening to your signals? It's like I mean you have to go. You know, if some of us maybe ignore it for a while. But, that's not good for your body. Or when we're cold, you know, you don't just say well, I guess I'm just going to be cold you put on a sweater or a jacket, or you turn up the heat or you make a fire.

Speaker 1: 19:18

So let's talk about this for just a minute. Hunger signal, somebody might be saying but I don't know when I'm hungry, and that and that may be the case, especially for those of us who have been dieting or overeating. You know, like alternating, because we just stop listening to our body and what it's telling us and just do it dependent upon what we're in the mood for. And so let's talk a little bit about the hunger signals that people might be experiencing or might want to experience.

Speaker 2: 19:48

If they've never tried waiting until they're hungry to eat, let's talk about that, yeah, Well, a lot of people think that the one hunger signal that we all have that's exactly the same is like an audible growl, you know the kind where you're embarrassed, and it's like, oh, excuse me. Well, I have to say that happened to me the other day, but it's very rare. I was actually sitting with someone who was visiting me and we were sitting on the couch and we were having this long discussion and all of a sudden my stomach started making these loud noises. But that's not normal for me. That's that happens maybe once a month or even less. Um, my, my normal hunger signal is not something I can hear. My normal hunger signal is something that I feel it's kind of just a hollow emptiness, a little bit of a gnawing sort of feel, and like mewing kittens. You know. If you does it sound like mewing kittens? Well, no, but you know how little kittens.

Speaker 2: 20:59

When they're hungry they start kind of soft with their mewing and then they're like practically screaming at you. So I just wait. I wait for a strong, clear signal. If I'm not sure, I wait, and it always comes. Yeah, how about you, heidi?

Speaker 1: 21:16

Yeah, minus is definitely that empty, hollow feeling as well. Everybody's different. I would like to say at this point, though, that if a person is waiting and waiting and waiting, get busy, do other things that God leads you to do, but recognize that if the first sign of hunger for you that you seem to dial into is a headache or weakness, that you've probably gone too far and just invite God in to show you. You know, lord, I want to know what my hunger signal is. If you have just ignored your signals of your body for a long time, it may take a little observation and correction. Look and learn with the Lord to know what it feels like for you, and just invite him in and ask him to show you. He knows exactly what your hunger signal is, and it won't necessarily be audible.

Speaker 1: 22:08

See, here's the thing. I think a lot of us, when we come out of dieting and come to more of an intuitive approach to eating and are told wait until you're hungry, we miss having the black and white clarity the dieting offered. Okay, I could have so many, this is, and that's in a day. Count up my points, or count up my calories, or count up something.

Speaker 2: 22:28

Or it's two o'clock and now I can eat, or that kind of thing.

Speaker 1: 22:32

Yes, or it's now six o'clock. I'm not going to eat again until 11 o'clock tomorrow morning. Whatever it might be, I think it's hard for us to not have those clear cut, black and white rules, but what is so awesome is give it time, give it prayer, invite God in and it will become something that is really such a relief. It is simple not always easy, but simple and that's a beautiful place to be.

Speaker 2: 23:02

It is. It is a beautiful place to be and I think people, myself included, are surprised at how good it feels. It's like you know what this feels good. It feels like something that my body was made for. Yes, it feels right to wait and listen to my body. And then the other thing, of course, that you hear us say every podcast, every class, everywhere we are, is invite God in, Invite God in. I didn't invite him in to my food and eating struggles, my body image struggles, I don't know until I was in my mid forties. You know, invite him in.

Speaker 2: 23:44

I don't know why, for so many of us, this is an area where we want to just say okay, lord, you know, this is kind of my thing over here and I'm I'm embarrassed and I'm kind of full of shame and I'm just going to deal with it on my own and you know, don't worry about it. You go, worry about the bigger things in the world and I mean there's a lot going on for you. I'm just going to go over here and try this new plan and try this and try that and I'll get back to you. I don't know why. I don't know why. I mean that's how I felt for so long. I don't know why we do that.

Speaker 1: 24:19

Well, and this is another reason why the language of this first intention was chosen very specifically, we're going to prayerfully wait until we sense a physical hunger signal. So we want to invite God into this process of the wait. God, what are you calling me to do right now, until I get hungry? That's that first part. And then following his leadership, and we need to be in prayer. That's listening and speaking to the Lord, inviting him in, speaking, and waiting for him to show us when we're at that place where we can enjoy having being refueled.

Speaker 2: 24:59

Yes, right, and really. I mean, if anything is hard in this journey and I have to remind myself of this all the time you know, if anything is hard, ask for help, ask God for help. It sounds so simple, but it's like no, I got this. I got this. Why? Why we have this amazing God who greets us with compassion and love and kindness and patience, and we're over here saying I got this.

Speaker 2: 25:27

We definitely don't got this we definitely don't, and so it's like okay, lord, this part feels hard right now. I'm going to ask you for help. I mean, he loves it, he's not too busy. In fact, your name is written on every line of his calendar for this day.

Speaker 1: 25:46

Yeah, I love every single line.

Speaker 2: 25:48

He's. You know he has all the time in the world just for you, because he's God.

Speaker 1: 25:55

I love that. I love that. So definitely we want to be prayerful. I mean it's kind of cool, when you think about it, that God designed our bodies in such a way that we would need food fuel multiple times a day, and each time can be a reminder to lean into him and connect with him. I mean, that's just a beautiful truth. I love that.

Speaker 2: 26:17

Love that Well, and once you've kind of found a little bit of freedom in this area, you realize that food is kind of amazing. You know, once you're not fighting it tooth and nail all the time, fighting the food and fighting the false beliefs about food, it's like wait a minute, food is amazing.

Speaker 2: 26:39

God created so much variety and I mean, just look at fruit all by itself, I mean it's crazy. It's so interesting, All the shapes, all the colors, all the flavors. But then spices and different meats and different. I mean, oh my gosh, it's really quite amazing. When you think of it, there are just thousands and thousands and thousands of foods for us to enjoy.

Speaker 1: 27:05

One of the things we're asked actually more frequently than you might think, is okay, your ministry focuses on mind renewal primarily, and yet you have this, this strand over here of five intentions of spirit led eating. What do they have to do with each other? So we thought, for every one of these intentions of spirit led eating that we're going to be dissecting each week, we would bring in a section at the end about how to use mind renewal to help with applying yourself to this intention. So if we're going to practice the intention that says I will busy myself as the spirit leads until I prayerfully sense a physical hunger signal, what comes to my mind as the most logical place to start is I don't want to be hungry, I want to eat now. So I need a different thought pattern.

Speaker 1: 28:01

Yes, and I want to eat now, so let me eat now, right? That's, that's an entitlement mentality. And so give me one way, christine, that you have found to help with that attitude of I want what I want when I want it and I don't want to wait for my body to tell me it's ready for food. How can I use Mind Renewal to help you with that?

Speaker 2: 28:21

Yeah, oh, such a good question, such a good question. And of course, there's so many reasons that we want to go to food when we're not hungry, including emotions, which has always been the biggest one for me. So one of my favorite tools for this is just what is true. So, in the moment, you know, and it's hard, it's hard at first, to kind of stop yourself for a minute and ask that. So be kind to yourself.

Speaker 2: 28:46

You know, I've heard so many people say and I was in this boat for a long time Well, I don't even think like it's mindless. I just go to the kitchen and all of a sudden the food is in my mouth. And I was in this boat for a long time. Well, I don't even think like it's mindless. I just go to the kitchen and all of a sudden the food is in my mouth and I've swallowed it and I haven't even tasted it. And so I do understand that, heidi, and I understand that. But over time you will get better and better at having a little pause, a little stop there. Or maybe you've already started eating and then you pause and it's like, okay, I'm going to invite God in right now. Lord, I'm struggling with what is true, I'm eating for reasons that are other than fueling my body. So will you help me to remember what is true? And so I might ask what is true about the food, food. What is true about me eating right now?

Speaker 1: 29:35

give examples as if you were in that moment, so people can hear exactly what you're talking about okay, what is true is that I'm not feeling a hunger signal yeah, I would say. What is true is, if I eat when I don't have a hunger signal, it means the fuel is going to be stored somewhere else on my body, and that's not what's best for me if I want to glorify God with my health.

Speaker 2: 30:00

And then one of the biggest ones for me is what is true about the way that I'm feeling right now? What do I need? What is driving me toward a counterfeit comfort, a fake? What is driving me toward that?

Speaker 1: 30:13

And is this really going to be the answer?

Speaker 2: 30:16

Yeah, am I lonely, am I sad? Am I disappointed? Am I exhausted? Maybe I'm like celebrating.

Speaker 1: 30:24

Could be all kinds of things. It's a way of renewing our minds, thinking God's thoughts. What are your thoughts right now about what I'm allowing to draw me to food, and he will often tell me things like I am enough for you right now. And he might tell me things like that food will be waiting for you when you're hungry and it's going to taste even better.

Speaker 2: 30:46

Yes, I love what you said about that, heidi, because it's true. God does speak to us in those moments. Sometimes, when we first start this process, it's hard. It's like, well, I don't hear anything, I just want those Cheetos. But another question that I might say is what is true about what's going to happen? Let's think it through. Okay, so I'm going to have this food, and then what? Well, everything will be the same. I will feel the same, except worse, because now I have guilt, now I have shame, and now I'm struggling with not feeling well because I ate on top of the food that was already in my stomach. Right, and so what is true? And sometimes those things right away will stop me. Other times I will still go for the food, but as I continue to ask what is true, I stop, and so I might have just had less that time that I would have had the last time. So we're not all or nothing. We know this is a process.

Speaker 2: 31:52

The other thing that I love, love, love to do with. What is true is what is true about where God is right now. What is true is that he's with me in. Whatever I'm thinking, whatever I'm feeling, he's with me. What is true is that I can eat with him. I can invite him into this. There is no condemnation in Christ. What is true is that God has insight for me. He has wisdom for me. The Holy Spirit is my constant counselor and comforter and comforter. Yes, I can go to him. Is my loneliness going to disappear? Is my sadness going to disappear? Well, it might, but it may not. But you know that God is there, with you in it. And when you tell yourself the truth about the food and separate that out from the emotions, then you're moving forward into peace and freedom.

Speaker 1: 32:51

Right, I really like telling myself the truth proactively before I'm in that moment of temptation, so like when I'm really on top of it. I will be telling myself the truth when I have my quiet time in the morning. I'll include time spent reminding myself of how rewarding it is to wait until I'm hungry and that my body has been made by an amazing God who's creative and knows what I need, when I need it, and has wired me to need food in certain quantities. Another one is my body isn't my own. It's not up to me when I eat, really because my body belongs to God and I want to treat it with the respect and honor that his property deserves. I mean, I wouldn't borrow somebody's Lamborghini and we are a high performance vehicle. Our bodies are amazing.

Speaker 1: 33:45

Yes, I wouldn't borrow somebody's Lamborghini and put more fuel in it than it needs, or put the wrong fuel in it or whatever. I wouldn't treat it that way, I just wouldn't. So why, if God has entrusted this body to me not given it to me, but entrusted it to me would I mistreat it that way? I wouldn't. So I like reminding myself of what is true about food and eating, what is true about who really owns this body, what is true about how I feel when I honor God with my eating by waiting until I'm hungry, and all of those things can set me up to wanting to follow this intention, which is, again, I will busy myself as the spirit leads until I prayerfully sense a physical hunger signal.

Speaker 2: 34:33

Well, and one more thing I want to throw in, because we've talked about this a lot and it's so important. It really, I think, changes our experience with food and eating in our bodies, and that is gratitude the more grateful that I am for my body, which is hard for many of us I'm just going to throw this in. It's hard. Many of us have really been at odds with our bodies for a long, long time, but the more I practice gratitude, thanking God for what he made in me, the more I want to take good care of my body. That's a big one for me, yeah. So we're so glad that you've been here with us and we hope that something that we've said has really resonated with you. We're going to continue the conversation on our next podcast, so join us for our next episode of Revelation Within oh bye for now.