Speaker 1: 0:01

Hi and welcome to our podcast, revelation Within On the Go. I'm Heidi Biles-Mapperson, one of your hosts and the owner and lead coach of the RevelationWithinorg ministry.

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And I'm Christina Motley, your other host, also a Revelation Within coach and Heidi's partner in all things Revelation Within. We are so happy to invite you to join us for this episode of Revelation Within on the show Waka waka, it was Fozzie the bear, it was Fozzie the bear, and are we dating ourselves again? Just a bit?

Speaker 1: 0:47

there and are we dating ourselves again? Well, welcome to our episode today. We are so glad you're joining us, and, christina, I'm so glad to be here with you too.

Speaker 2: 0:52

Oh, I'm so glad to be here with you, Heidi, always.

Speaker 1: 0:56

So we are making our way through the five intentions of spirit-led eating. Of course, holy Spirit-led eating is what we desire to do at Revelation. Within, we want to surrender our lives completely to the Holy Spirit of God, not just our eating, but definitely our eating and we do a lot of mind renewal that helps us want to do that and want to surrender our spending, surrender the way we talk. It's just all about giving our lives to the Lord for his direction, for his leadership, to do what he's prepared in advance for us to do for his glory.

Speaker 1: 1:32

So, that's where we're at. I love that. I do too. I really do. So we're going to go ahead and read through all of the intentions. We have made podcasts for each of the intentions. Intentions we have made podcasts for each of the intentions one, two, three and four, and today will be five that we'll be unpacking. So we're going to read through them all. First, though, to give it context.

Speaker 2: 1:53

My body is a gift from God to me and is fearfully and wonderfully made in God's image and by his careful and loving design. I am his beautiful masterpiece, his poetry in motion, one of a kind. I look to the Holy Spirit for his wisdom and loving leadership. Therefore, I will honor my God-given body with these intentions.

Speaker 1: 2:16

Yay. Intention number one I will busy myself as the Spirit leads until I prayerfully sense a physical hunger signal.

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Number two I will invite the spirit of God into my meal with a heart of gratitude and praise.

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Number three I will choose food in a just right sized portion that delights my taste buds and causes my body to feel energized and strong.

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Number four I will create a peaceful eating experience by being present with a food and reducing distractions.

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Intention number five I will stop eating before my stomach is full, at the peaceful place, of just enough, and that is the intention we are unpacking today.

Speaker 2: 3:01

Yes, it is, and you know what. To be honest, this is the hardest one. Yeah, this is the hardest one for pretty much everybody. You know. We have people say, okay, number one, yes, you know, I can feel hunger and that's, that's okay. And well, I'm working on eating more peacefully, I'm working on gratitude and praise and these other things sound really good. I can work on those. And then we get to number five and we get this look from everybody, you know, and it's just like this one I don't know what to do with. I don't know how to stop, I don't want to stop and I'm struggling so much and then, if I do stop, it's like it's like I can't repeat it again, it's like it doesn't last. I'm always struggling with stopping before my stomach is full and then, once I've moved on from there, I just keep going, because what's the point? I mean, how many of us have felt that way time and time and again?

Speaker 1: 4:07

While it's true that this is really really hard for us and for most of our participants, that this is really really hard for us and for most of our participants, we do get the freedom to choose, and that's why this intention, along with the other four, starts with the words I will, because I can choose to stop Now. This is to be honest with you. This is where our mind renewal comes in, because if I find myself again and again not willing myself to stop eating, then I there's probably some things I believe that like, for instance, that this is going to benefit me and we're going to talk about that in a moment. What some of the lies are. I might be believing, but I want to renew my mind. Tell God, what are your thoughts about this.

Speaker 1: 4:48

I think I can't stop right now, but what is true? I think that eating more will be a benefit to me in some way. What is true? What are your thoughts about that? So I have the power of Christ living in me to enable me to choose to stop. I have everything I need for life and godliness, and that includes the ability to stop. It may not seem like it, but if he raised Jesus out of the grave and Jesus came exploding out of the tomb. I know that he can raise me up from my old habits and things that have really held me back. I know he can explode those chains off of me and that means I can stop eating if I yeah, if I will it to be so and lean into God's power.

Speaker 1: 5:36

So let's talk about some of the lies that we might believe that might keep us from choosing to stop eating at any point in time, no matter where we are in terms of satisfaction. What are some of those lies, Christina.

Speaker 2: 5:49

Yeah Well, and another one that we hadn't talked about before just came into my mind. How about this one? This food is so healthy and so good for me. I should eat as much of this, as much as I possibly can, and it sounds kind of ridiculous, but you know what I've seen it.

Speaker 1: 6:08

I've seen people do it.

Speaker 2: 6:09

Yes, we have all, and I know that I've had those thoughts too in the past.

Speaker 1: 6:14

It's usually salads, if I can be honest with you.

Speaker 2: 6:16

Right, it's not usually candy bars.

Speaker 1: 6:20

No, no, it's ginormous salads Big, big, big ones.

Speaker 2: 6:25

Yeah, it is, and there is a belief there and most of us we don't know that we have these beliefs. Most of us, we don't know that we have these beliefs. Most of us, we have just been in these patterns for so long and we've heard these things for so long that it's just there. It's kind of our go-to or our default. But that's one of them. If the food is so healthy, I should just eat as much of it as I can. My body needs this much. That's definitely a lie.

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Let's talk about what is true if you believe that or if I believe that.

Speaker 2: 7:01

So what is true about this big, beautiful healthy meal in front of me, with all the colors and textures and flavors and it happens to be on everybody's quote unquote healthy list? What is true is that it's just food. Huh.

Speaker 1: 7:20

Yes, you mean. It's not the food that I have to eat, that my parents made me eat so I could get the reward of the food I like to eat.

Speaker 2: 7:29

No, it's just fuel, it's just food, that's all it is. Just because it looks a certain way or it's on somebody's list doesn't mean that it's magical. It's just food. And your stomach is the same size. Oh, that's another. I just thought of another lie that my stomach is bigger when I'm hungrier. That's another one. Yeah, and it's not, it's the same size.

Speaker 1: 7:54

That's another I just thought of another lie, that my stomach is bigger when I'm hungrier. Another one yeah, and it's not. It's the same size. That's the truth for that one.

Speaker 2: 7:59

I know people who have really struggled with this one, with the healthy food portions thing. It has driven them for years in a direction of overfueling their bodies, and so what happens? When we overfuel, we don't feel well, it's not good for us, and then we carry whatever that extra was that our body can't process because it was too much, right, and so that's a big one. Okay, I love what you said about what is true. What is true is that God made these beautiful foods for us to eat in moderation and for us to eat when our body needs fuel and just enough. What is another lie, heidi, that you know, that you've experienced or heard?

Speaker 1: 8:49

There are so many, I'm just picking one. The one that popped into my head as you were talking about your lie was that, oh my goodness, I have only had carbs all day, so I need to eat X, y or Z because I need protein. And now I may need some protein at some point, but waiting until I'm hungry is a good time to eat that protein. That's what's true. So the lie is that somehow it'll be beneficial to my body to eat when I'm hungry is a good time to eat that protein. That's what's true. So the lie is that somehow it'll be beneficial to my body to eat when I'm not hungry because I haven't had protein yet today. No, that's a lie, just like any other. It's still fuel that I don't need, because my body isn't calling for fuel Right.

Speaker 2: 9:27

Yes, okay, here's another one. I mean, I think I've believed all of these, so here's another one. The food won't taste as good or won't satisfy me unless I have a large amount. And actually the truth is it's the opposite. God has made our bodies in such an amazing way. When we're really hungry, those first few bites taste amazing.

Speaker 1: 9:56

There's both biblical truth and scientific truth that our taste buds actually are less likely to taste the flavors of food when we're not hungry anymore, so like if you've had a few bites, I think you know it's diminishing in terms of how flavorful it is. So it's not going to be better if you keep eating it. In fact it's going to taste less intensely wonderful.

Speaker 2: 10:24

Yes, I have an example of this. Years ago, when I was around 1920, I decided that I needed to experience hunting in the dead of winter in.

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Wisconsin with my then boyfriend, now husband. And so here we are, out in the middle of this wilderness. We're in the snow. I'm from California. It is colder than I have ever experienced. I feel like I'm going to die of cold, even though I'm wearing like 24 layers. And we're hunting. Well, I'm not hunting, I'm just along for the ride. I'm walking with my husband, we're hiking around, I'm totally exhausted.

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And we run into his dad, and his dad is out there too. And his dad says to us are you guys hungry? And I look at him like we're just about to starve to death. I didn't say anything, of course, but that's what I was thinking. And he said I left some sandwiches under such and such tree at the end of this path, this kind of thing under the snow, in like a little container. And so David and I were hungry, we're exhausted, we're tired, we're pulling this deer by its antlers through the snow and we get to this lunch. Okay, so let me just tell you what it consisted of. Okay, so let me just tell you what it consisted of.

Speaker 2: 11:58

It was white bread and it was these slabs of butter like cut slabs, and then one like a piece of ham like lunch meat and another another piece of white bread and really cheap beer, like the cheapest beer you can buy.

Speaker 1: 12:13

I would need the cheap beer to be able to eat that sandwich.

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Let me just tell you it was one of the most delightfully delicious, satisfying meals David and I have ever eaten, because we were so so hungry and thirsty and it tasted amazing, even though it was what I just described. Oh my, gosh.

Speaker 2: 12:39

So that's kind of an example. But what is true is that once we're into our meal, several bites, the flavor starts to come down. It's not tasting as good and it's coming down. And that's God's design, which blows my mind. It's amazing to me, Blows my mind that he would come up with that, but he's God so he knows everything. I mean, I really think that he knew we would struggle with this intention with stopping before our stomach is full.

Speaker 2: 13:13

Okay, here's another one of the lies that I have told myself a million times in the past More is better, and we're also hearing this from our whole world, our society, from the media, the magazines, the everywhere we look. It says more is better, get more, get more, eat more. Two for one, three for one, you know? Supersize, have as much as you want, have it your way. So is more better. How do I feel when I've had too much? Oh blah, yeah blah. Bloated, uncomfortable, like I don't want to be active, sluggish and downhearted, guilty, full of shame. Oh my gosh, I did it again. Why did I do that? Right? I don't like the way this feels. I over-fueled my body, yeah.

Speaker 1: 14:07

I'm stuffed, yeah, and it oftentimes sets us in this downward spiral. When we feel shame in response to overeating, we end up needing comfort and we go to things that comfort us, whether it be more food and more overeating or something else and then we feel more shame and it is hard to break out of that downward spiral.

Speaker 2: 14:25

Oh my gosh, it really is else.

Speaker 1: 14:26

And then we feel more shame, and it is hard to break out of that downward spiral. Oh my gosh. So one simple lie that leads me to overeat can definitely wreak havoc for sure. Another lie that often leads us to eat more than we need is I may never get to eat this again. Yeah, definitely. Especially on vacations or holiday times, when people we don't see often bring special meals or dishes to events, it's like I need to eat it now because there's no other chance for me to do that. So what is true is I can get the recipe for almost any food that anybody can make, and I can make it for myself and people I love and care about and share it. And besides that here's the thing. Is that more important than living as the redeemed man or woman of God who has the Holy Spirit in me, enabling me to demonstrate peace, joy, love, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control? I mean, I have those attributes as I lean into the Holy Spirit. Do I really believe that pumpkin pancakes are impossible for me to deny myself?

Speaker 2: 15:35

Right, no. And then the question is why is this so incredibly important to me? What's going on with this? What's attached to it? Let's pull it apart. Maybe it's an emotional thing of some kind, some kind of attachments, so let's that's not where we want, to be so fixated and obsessed.

Speaker 1: 17:09

So we, of course, could go on and talk about all kinds of lies that we believe that cause us to not want to stop eating, but we'll save that for an episode dedicated to that, perhaps, yes.

Speaker 2: 17:21

Anyway, so good one it is.

Speaker 1: 17:24

It is so, christina. This intention says I'm going to stop eating before my stomach is full. Let's talk about this word before, relative to before my stomach is full. What do we do with that?

Speaker 2: 17:37

Why, well the reason that we use the words in this way is because when you get to that place of just enough, it is before full and there's really no sensation. It's just kind of a quiet, peaceful place. The hunger signal is gone, you're not uncomfortable anymore because you need fuel. You're fueled up but you're not full. So the full feeling has a sensation, and that is when the food is pushing against the walls of your stomach.

Speaker 2: 18:08

We can feel that, but satisfied or just enough, we can't physically feel it, and so that's why we use those words before. I will stop eating before my stomach is full, because that's where we want to be and that's kind of a tricky place to find. Full is too much food and, like I said, there's a sensation there. So we know and you probably don't want to be active after that we talked about that a minute ago you feel bloated, you can tell that you've over-fueled your body and for many of us, that sensation of full is kind of a comfort. It's like what you've always done. It's how you felt after you ate at grandma's. It's like, oh, this is good. This is one of the big lies is that full is good?

Speaker 1: 19:02

Or full is necessary, but I've got to feel that fullness and that's a lie.

Speaker 2: 19:08

Or full is something I deserve. Full is what the king and queen feel. This is so funny. I was laughing so hard the other day, but now where, what?

Speaker 2: 19:18

I don't remember where I saw it, but somebody said I want to learn to eat like the people who live at Downton Abbey. And they are these like very wealthy to do people. So you would think that they would eat so much because they have this amazing table and they have cooks and cooks, assistants and all the best food. But they eat very slowly, very carefully, very peacefully, very small portions, and I know because I've seen the entire series now three times in the last 10 years with my parents, with my daughter, with my husband. Anyway, they are peaceful eaters and you can watch every dining scene and you can see it. And so that idea that full is better, somehow, that full is what I deserve. That full is. You know how the king and queen would eat. You know how the king and queen would eat. That's not the truth. The truth is just enough, is peaceful. That's where the reward is Doing things God's way the way he designed.

Speaker 2: 20:30

that's where the reward is Not having too much.

Speaker 1: 20:34

Right, right. I think that, over the course of my life anyway, fullness was always exalted as being yep, that's what we want, that's what we're after, and stopping before that intentions. We want to be peaceful eaters for a lot of different reasons, but if we want to be peaceful eaters, we want to end the meal before we get to a place where there's any reason for us to feel regret, regret is an enemy of peace.

Speaker 1: 21:13

I really feel that, yeah, that is. It's a peaceful place of just enough, just enough. And here's the thing I think it's easy to forget when I get hungry again, I can eat.

Speaker 2: 21:30

What? Oh, really yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:32

It's crazy. We do forget that. Yeah, it's like I could even have the same meal again if I wanted to, if I'm hungry. I've kind of had a personal boundary because I know myself well that I won't get seconds when I'm sitting down to a meal Most of the time I follow that not always, and that stays with me, even when I'm not so good about the other intentions, because I've just gotten into the habit of making my first portion enough for sure. So for me that's a good way of helping me practically to stay away from overdoing it. Overeating it doesn't mean I never overeat, don't get me wrong. I overeat, yeah, but um, it is. It is a peaceful place, it is a place where I recognize this is the way my body was intended to operate and I'm operating myself within the parameters that got established, and that's a really good feeling. That's a good feeling, yeah, yeah. What else do we want to say about this intention?

Speaker 2: 22:35

Well, okay. So peaceful eating is a happy medium. It's sustainable For me. I was always at one extreme or the other. For years and years of dieting and being anything but a peaceful eater. I was either restricting, restricting. Restricting, so I was not at peace, so I felt deprived, so I felt hungry, so I was eating food I didn't even like, or I was eating to full, past full, past full all the time, and so I was never in that middle place. And then I would say things like why do I keep gaining weight? What's wrong with me? And it's like we weren't meant to live at these extremes. Those are both really hard on our bodies. Being in the middle, I mean, our God is a God of order and peace, not chaos and confusion. He is. You. Look at the world that he created and it's amazing. He wants us to be at peace.

Speaker 2: 23:38

He wants us to be in the middle enjoying food, but at just enough and full is just too much. It's grabbing for too much at one time. Like you said, heidi, as soon as you're hungry again, go ahead and have more of the same thing if you want, or that other thing or that other thing. Every time you reach a zero, it's time to fuel up again. Exactly and those are truths that I'm kind of embarrassed to say I didn't know until I was like 45.

Speaker 1: 24:10

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:10

I get it.

Speaker 1: 24:11

But I'm so grateful.

Speaker 2: 24:13

Yeah, and I know that so many of you listening have had the same experience.

Speaker 1: 24:17

Yeah, so let's back up to to our preamble, and I want to challenge all of us take this preamble. And again, if you want to download these intentions, you can do that by going to teamlifeisgoodcom forward slash five. That's the number five intentions, no spaces in any of that anywhere. So that's teamlifeisgoodcom forward slash five intentions, and the preamble is included in that.

Speaker 1: 24:45

And what if you were to read this out loud to yourself Well to God, welcome him into it At least once a day. My body is a gift from God to me and is fearfully and wonderfully made in God's image and by his careful and loving design. I am his beautiful masterpiece, his poetry and motion, one of a kind. I look to the Holy Spirit for his wisdom and loving leadership. Therefore, I will honor my God given body with these intentions. What if we were to read that every day? It's like you don't have to believe it when you start reading it. It is rooted in truth. We have a Bible verse for most of those statements. And what's so cool is, as I tell myself, the truth. I believe the truth. And as I believe the truth, I act on the truth.

Speaker 2: 25:36

So yay, yay. Well, we are so glad that you've been here today. Now we've done a podcast on all five intentions of spirit led eating. We hope that this has been helpful in some way. We hope that you'll join us next time on our podcast Revelation Within. Yay, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1: 25:57

Thanks for being here. Bye-bye on the show, yay. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2: 26:01

Thanks for being here, bye, bye.