Speaker 1: 0:02

Hi and welcome to our podcast Revelation Within On the Go. I'm Heidi Biles-Maepperson, one of your hosts and the owner and lead coach of the RevelationWithinorg ministry.

Speaker 2: 0:13

And I'm Christina Motley, your other host, also a Revelation Within coach and Heidi's partner in all things Revelation Within. We are so happy to invite you to join us for this episode of Revelation Within on the go. We both went in the same direction that time.

Speaker 1: 0:39

Yes, definitely. Well, Christina and I were talking this week about just this and that ministry things, coaching and so on and we both kind of landed on a concern that we think is from God. Right, Don't?

Speaker 2: 0:55

we yes.

Speaker 1: 0:56

So let's describe for a minute what we have observed, and then we'll launch into what we hope for the people that we've observed this about, and we've both been in this camp, so yeah, well, I was just going to say I can observe my own experience looking back.

Speaker 2: 1:15

Yeah, so you know, many of you know that I have been a Christian since I was a little girl and then made a solid decision for Christ as a teenager and have been in the Word and gone to church and Bible study and all the different things, the retreats, and had daily time with the Lord and all of those things for a long, long time and it's wonderful and I love that that's a part of my life. So when I was a teenager, I started into the patterns of disordered eating and things just got more and more intense with that. And I've talked about that before. Being raised in the Los Angeles area and just the pressures there and also having a mom who had some real struggles with food and eating there were a lot of things that contributed to it.

Speaker 2: 2:04

But I found myself getting in this pattern. I didn't notice it right away, you know how. You just don't really see it right away. I don't think I noticed it for quite a long time, but it did start, probably 16, 17. So I would eat when I wasn't hungry, I would overeat, I would have a binge or whatever you want to call it, and then I felt like I had pushed God away.

Speaker 1: 2:30

That's a really common feeling too.

Speaker 2: 2:32

Yeah, and honestly, I didn't feel this way about other areas in my life which is so interesting to me. I would get in a fight with my boyfriend or I would mess something up with school, get a bad grade or whatever it was, or make a decision that wasn't being a good friend or something like that, and I didn't feel the same way. I didn't feel like I was pushing God away Like in every other issue. I felt like I could go to him and say help me with this Lord. I'm struggling, but for whatever reason I'm not quite sure why, but I do know that a lot of people say this too with food and eating and my body image I felt like I was pushing him away. When I was eating, when I wasn't hungry, overeating, eating for emotional reasons, whatever I was eating for wasn't hungry, overeating, eating for emotional reasons, whatever I was eating for, and that felt awful. It was very real to me. I thought that that was truth. I thought that I was pushing him away.

Speaker 1: 3:36

That's a really good example of when our feelings tell us what is true and they lie.

Speaker 2: 3:43

Yes, and I used to journal constantly when I was younger, in my 20s, and, oh my goodness, and I would journal all of this out and it looked kind of the same every single time and I was just like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, god, I'm sorry I blew it again. I blew it again. Why can't I get this, why won't you fix me?

Speaker 2: 4:05

And it just kind of it was like I was renewing my mind in a way that was causing me to go down, down, down, and it was also what was coming out of that was that I hated myself.

Speaker 1: 4:22

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:24

I was mad at myself all the time, secretly in my mind, in my own thoughts. I didn't articulate it, I didn't talk to anybody about this. I just kept going on more diets. So, we talked about diets a lot, my friends and I and exercise programs or going to the gym, that kind of thing.

Speaker 2: 4:43

But my thoughts were extremely condemning and I thought you know what am I doing? I'm ruining my relationship with God. A lot of people do. I mean, it was just. It was an awful feeling. I thought this is my fault, I'm messing this up, I'm ruining my relationship with God and I don't feel like I've heard something like this so much until recently. I feel like the last few months I'm hearing it a lot from people who are coming to us at Revelation Within. What do you think, Heidi?

Speaker 1: 5:20

Yeah, I know that I used to hear it quite a bit when I would coach one-on-one, when we had a community on Facebook and before that when we had the forums in the old days of you know, people would say I feel like I'm letting God down. I just can't stand the way I do this. He must be so disappointed with me. I must grieve him so much. And it's like they have this feeling, like you described, as though God turns his back on them. When they're out of line in some way, when they're not aligned with him, they feel like God turns their back, and so is that a biblical principle. Let's evaluate that for a minute before we actually go to some scriptures. What is true of us? Well, we're going to get to this with the scriptures as well.

Speaker 1: 6:13

But I mean, can I be separated from God by my sin? If I am in Christ, if I have opened my heart to what Christ did on the cross for me, if I have allowed his blood to be applied to my sin and my shame, and I mean, is that a one and done thing, or do I break fellowship with him? Do I cause him to turn away from me when I sin?

Speaker 2: 6:44

Well, and there's another area, too, that just comes to mind right now, where I'm seeing this, because I'm in my mid fifties, so a lot of my friends are around my age some of them, you know and we're all in this season where we're launching kids or have launched kids, or are kind of in the middle of it or wishing they would launch. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1: 7:05

Or there are some of us who have boomerang babies who come back again.

Speaker 2: 7:08

Yes, yes, and I'm hearing this from the moms that are my age. I'm hearing you know, my kids have made these bad choices and they have pushed God away. And I'm hearing that from moms too. And it's like wait a minute, wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We need to get back into scripture and see what's actually true, not how we're feeling Like I was talking to a friend the other day who said I don't know if my son is a Christian anymore, and that always makes me so sad.

Speaker 2: 7:43

And it's not because he has said that he's not, it's not because he has tried something different and said goodbye to this, nothing like that. It's because of some decisions that he's made recently. And it's like wait a minute, wait a minute. Let's look at the word and see Can we, can we push God away? Do we push God away from us when we make a bad decision, when we sin, when we go, turn to a counterfeit comfort? Are we pushing him away? So let's look at that, because I think it's on a lot of people's minds right now.

Speaker 1: 8:18

Right, so we're going to dive in to. We're going to start in Romans, chapter eight, in some selected verses, from verses 31 to 38. We're not going to read them all, we're going to skip a little bit. Christina, would you go ahead and do that for us?

Speaker 2: 8:33

What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own son, but gave him up for us all, how will he not also, with him, graciously give us all things?

Speaker 1: 8:50

That's just such a beautiful verse. It's verse 31 and 32 of Romans 8. And really think about it. God held nothing back. Held nothing back. He didn't hold back the greatest sacrifice, his own son, because he wanted intimacy with us when we were so far away from him already he spared no expense to bring us close. Does that sound like a fickle sort of love.

Speaker 2: 9:22

It does not, not so far. Let's see what else we've got. Yeah, okay, verse 35,. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? This is one of my absolute favorite verses, especially when I'm thinking about things that I've done and things that my kids have done. Shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword, and you add in your own or what can I separate me from the love of Christ?

Speaker 1: 9:56

You know the implication here. It's a rhetorical question. The implication is no, the answer is no, and Paul later on tells us that Can anything keep me from the love of Christ? Once I'm in Christ, can anything keep me from that love? Can I be separated? Go ahead and read on yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:21

So the answer is no, and it starts with no. In all these things, we are more than conquerors, through him who loved us, for I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus, our Lord. There it is, there it is there.

Speaker 1: 10:54

It is Now many of us. We might go okay, well, that's what it says there, but elsewhere in scripture it says something else. But what we have to do is be cautious. Says something else. But what we have to do is be cautious. When Jesus came, he accomplished something once and for all, for all men and women, for all time, any who would allow him to. He bridged that gap. He gave his body, he gave his blood, he gave himself. He who knew no sin became sin for us, so that in him we might what Become the righteousness of God. I don't have that reference written down or in my mind anywhere, but I think it's in 1 Peter. But I could be wrong.

Speaker 1: 11:36

In any event, we have become the righteousness of God because he became sin for us. I think it's fascinating if we go on and look at Ephesians. In Ephesians chapter two, we're told we were dead in trespasses and sins, and then verse four goes on and says but God. I love those words, I love those words. When we see a but God, there's a contrast coming. Yes, I was dead in trespasses and sins. I was as far away from God as I could have been, but God. And it goes on to say in verse four of Ephesians, chapter two but God being rich in mercy. Because of what? Because of me, because I was a good girl for a minute. No, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when Heidi was dead in her trespasses, even when Christina was dead in her trespasses, even when we were dead in our trespasses, god, who's rich in mercy, made us alive together with Christ. And we're reminded by grace you are saved. And beyond that, he raised us up with Christ and seated us with Christ in the heavenly places. In Christ Jesus. That's verses.

Speaker 1: 13:00

Let's see four through six of Ephesians two. This is amazing stuff. There's so much here that we could unpack, but we won't go into it for very long because we have other verses we want to get into. But I love that. God is rich in mercy because of his great love, with which he loved us. He chose to love us. And when did he choose to love us? Even when we were dead in our trespasses. And what did he do? He raised us up, made us alive together with Christ, seated us with Christ in heavenly places in Christ. There's a lot of really good news there.

Speaker 2: 13:42

It really really really is really good news there. It really really really is. Okay. Romans 5, 8 tells us that God demonstrates his love for us in this, that while we were still sinners just like you just said, heidi he gave Jesus for us to bring us close. So I mean, at that time we were steeped in sin. So I mean, at that time we were steeped in sin. We were sin. Sin owned us. It was our identity, it defined us, and that is when God chose to come close. He spared nothing to be intimate with us.

Speaker 2: 14:17

Wow, wow, so beautiful. This is the truth from the word of God. This is who God is, not just. Oh, I'm feeling this way. Let's look at what is the truth from the word of God. This is who God is, not just. Oh, I'm feeling this way. Let's look at what is the truth, what is true? Yeah, ephesians 2, 12 and 13. Remember that you were at the time, separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now, in Christ Jesus, it's right there, it's very clear, there's no question. It's not confusing. It's right there for us. I love that.

Speaker 1: 15:05

You could be in the middle of a binge, yes, and you have been brought near to Christ. Yes, you have been brought near by the blood of Christ. You could be in the middle of throwing up your meal. I hate to say that, but it's true. And you are no longer separated from Christ. You were separated from Christ before you came to him. You were alienated from him. You were strangers to the covenants of promise. You had no hope. You were without God from him. You were strangers to the covenants of promise. You had no hope. You were without God in the world. It's all past tense though. Yes, and then we have in verse 13,. But now, but now in Christ Jesus, I want to get up and dance around.

Speaker 2: 15:48

Yeah, let's do it, let's get up and dance around.

Speaker 1: 15:51

Yeah, let's do it, let's get up and dance around. But now, even if you're binging, even if you're purging, even if you're anythinging, christ Jesus has brought you close. You, who were once far off, have been brought near. And how Are you brought near? By your behavior? No, you can't lose it either. It's by the blood of Christ.

Speaker 2: 16:14

Yes, and this is true for the people that we love that are struggling. This is true for your friend, for your cousin, for your husband, for your kids. This is true Once we are in Christ, it is a one and done, it is a done deal. Our identity now is in Christ. Our identity, we are his, that's our identity.

Speaker 1: 16:46

We are no longer owned and defined by sin, right. And what is just so cool too, it says in Ephesians that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a seal. And what does a seal do? It keeps things stuck together, kind of closed, and it's like a permanence of some sort. If an envelope isn't sealed, it doesn't feel secure. If I'm not sealed in Christ, then I wouldn't be secure. But I am sealed and it's not just adhesive, it's the Holy Spirit, it's God glue. I am spiritually cling-wrapped to God with the Holy Spirit. I mean, picture it. Yeah, these are cling-wrapped.

Speaker 1: 17:21

Oh it's so good.

Speaker 2: 17:23

It's such a relief because we mess up so much.

Speaker 1: 17:27

I know.

Speaker 2: 17:28

It's such a relief to know that this reality, who we are in Christ, is not dependent on how quote unquote good we are. Oh my gosh, what a relief. That is right, right.

Speaker 1: 17:40

Oh, it is, it really is. Colossians three three puts it this way, for you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. Somehow, I don't know what this means. I kind of think of it as the Trinity, a similar sort of thing. It's not the Trinity, but it's like I can't understand the Trinity either.

Speaker 1: 18:01

What is true according to God, which is true truth it's absolute truth doesn't always make sense to my brain. So somehow the Trinity is true, but also I am somehow mingled with God in Christ. I'm hidden with Christ in God. I can't pretend to understand it, but the Bible teaches that it's true. And so, in addition to Colossians 3, 3, which we just quoted, we can consider Jesus's prior in John 17.

Speaker 1: 18:32

And in verse 21, he's praying to God, the father, that they may all be one father, just as you, father, are in me and I in you. That they also may be in us, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me. That they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and love them even as you loved me. A lot of oneness, it's kind of like can you, can you divide up, Like if you were, I like to make the hummingbird nectar for my mother-in-law's hummingbird feeder, because she can't get around so easy anymore. So I I make sure I heat up the water and I dissolve the sugar in it.

Speaker 1: 19:20

Now it is possible to separate them out, but not easily. That is something so simple. Sugar water is simple and it's hard to extract the sugar from the water. But God says I am in him and he is in me and we are in Christ. And I mean, whoa, it's not something that I can work my way out of or work my way into Right, not up to me Exactly, and here's the thing, is Jesus, when he was on the cross, he took all of my sin, all of your sin, to the cross, and he chose to do this.

Speaker 1: 20:02

Why? Because of his love. And God turned his face away from Jesus as Jesus cried out my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? That was a heavy moment in all of history. Yes, jesus endured God turning his back on him so that we would never have to experience the pain and the heartache and the hopelessness of God turning away from us. And so, no, we can't do anything that makes God turn away from us. He will never treat us like some parents might treat their kids, even, you know, with contempt for misbehavior, or give them the silent treatment. He doesn't do that. No, he is filled with love. He really is.

Speaker 2: 20:54

Yeah, so it's our conviction, Heidi and I, and Revelation Within, that if we believe that we can be separated from God once we are in Christ, then we're believing a lie that's authored by the enemy of our souls.

Speaker 1: 21:10

Whoa, that's pretty strong, but we do feel pretty darn strong about this, yeah we really do With anything that we teach or speak about on the podcast or in our classes or one-on-one. We want to urge you to always check the word of God yourself, absolutely, definitely. I mean Paul refers to the Bereans as being of most noble character, because they checked the scriptures to see if what Paul himself was teaching was legit, and so we certainly are above Paul. Please, please, please, check the word of God Definitely.

Speaker 2: 21:51

Get into it with the Lord on your own.

Speaker 1: 21:53

Yes, absolutely, and so that way, gosh, then we'll all be safe, and you're welcome to tell us what you find. This has come from our own experience searching the scriptures to see. We had so many people speaking about how they were letting God down or God was turning his back because of their sin, that we thought we need to figure this out. Is this really true? And our feelings do not define truth? If I feel far from God, guess what? He hasn't moved, and that's not to say I should feel condemnation for moving myself, but I should inform my feelings with truth, like these truths we've been looking at today.

Speaker 2: 22:35

So in that place of feeling like God is distant, that's very real, I mean, it feels really real. It feels like, well, yes, he is, cause I can't sense him and he seems like he's far away and I'm not having any warm fuzzies at all and it feels like he's giving me the silent treatment we don't want to like minimize how it feels, because Heidi and I know how that feels but, we also know that the truth is he has not moved.

Speaker 2: 23:04

Like you just said, Heidi, he has not moved. Yes, Sometimes he's very quiet. Sometimes we don't hear from him in the moment, Absolutely, but that's not because he's disappointed or wondering how he should deal with us or mad or like, oh Christina, not again. He's not that way. He's so not that way. And so I think that what happens is sometimes that quiet with the Lord. It feels like distance, but it's not distance. It feels like it because maybe we've experienced that from a parent or a spouse or a best friend or a sister. Maybe that's why that's where we go, you know, when there feels like there's this quiet from the Lord. But really he's just with us and sometimes we're not ready to hear what he has to say and he waits till the timing is right.

Speaker 1: 24:02

That's all it is.

Speaker 2: 24:03

Because he loves us so, so much. It doesn't mean he's mad or upset or turning his back on us or any. None of those things are true, not according to what we've read in the word of God.

Speaker 1: 24:18

I think of the story of when Jesus and his disciples, his apostles specifically, I don't even remember. They were in one place and Lazarus was sick and Martha and Mary sent for Jesus to come because they knew Jesus would heal him. Yes, and Jesus stayed where he was, intentionally for four days.

Speaker 2: 24:42

Oh, that's such a perfect example.

Speaker 1: 24:44

Isn't it? I mean, it's like he would talk about silent. There was no texting then there was no way that he could say I love you, but I'm just not there yet, or whatever. And then when he went, lazarus had died. Can you imagine Now if we can push God away? It would make sense that they would think what don't you love us anymore? What's wrong? Or what did we do? Yeah, what did we do? It's my fault, it's always my fault. Yeah, what did we do? It's my fault, it's always my fault. Right? No, no, jesus chose.

Speaker 1: 25:17

And do you remember why he chose to wait? He just waited because he knew there was going to be a greater glory in raising Lazarus from the dead. Oh, my goodness, you know that's a big deal. He waited until Lazarus had died because he intended for people to see that he had power over life and death. He is the resurrection and the life. When God seems silent, it's not because we have reached a place where he disapproves of us, or he is disappointed with us, or he's disgusted. Some people think he's disgusted by us.

Speaker 2: 25:54

I know Absolutely. I have felt that way in the past. It's not true.

Speaker 2: 25:59

It's not true, well, and when we think about and we well, it's hard to think about this because we're not God, but it's like God. What are your plans in this? What are your? What's your purpose in this? It's way different than mine. I'm looking at this from a totally different way. Mary and her sister were looking at this in a totally different way, but God had a plan and a purpose that was huge. It was so big that it would change people's entire way of looking at death, and he needed to do it. And it was them. They were the ones involved, but his plans and purposes we don't understand. They're so far above us.

Speaker 1: 26:42

Oh, absolutely they are. What if, instead of thinking we can push God away because hopefully you see that that's not true what if, instead of thinking we can push God away, we were to actually believe that he is there, right with us, loving us. He has a heart for us, he is passionate, as ever, for our joy, for our healing, and we may have turned our back on him, but he is there, pursuing us, like with Hosea and Gomer. Think about the story of Hosea and Gomer in the book of Hosea, maybe even read through that. God commissioned Hosea to love this woman, gomer, even though she was an adulteress, even though she had many partners, even though she ran after them. He wanted Hosea to go get her and to chase after her, because he is that way with his people, and he specifically says so in that book. It's an amazing story.

Speaker 2: 27:43

It is Well and Redeeming Love is written by Francine Rivers and she tells the story Absolutely. It's an incredible book. I remember reading that many, many years ago. I think I want to read it again.

Speaker 1: 27:59

So, christina, you asked me to tell a story of when I felt this distance from God and I told you that it's been a really long time since I have felt that I could push God away, that that is something that I have a lot of distance from, thankfully.

Speaker 1: 28:15

And then Christina asked me well, why do you think you have? How is that possible? Anyway? And I realized I started with the whole God list and praise fest. We did a whole episode on that and I really think it's renewing my mind with what God says about who he is. Again and again, and again and again, and knowing that he has purchased me, I am his, that I am his masterpiece and he has plans for me. I have value, identity and purpose. You know that whole who I am in Christ list. Those two things have been.

Speaker 1: 28:52

I've used those hours and hours and hours and hours in my life and I think I really believe it. Yes, and it shows up. I mean because when I mess up, I feel sad but I don't feel like he's disgusted with me. I don't feel like I'm able to push him away. I don't want to, and you know what this does for me too is if I think of God as a potentially disapproving parent, then I don't have a softened heart for him. I mean, it's just the way it is. When my parents were raising me, they were very strict and I could disappoint them easily just by looking at them cross-eyed and I didn't really particularly care if they were unhappy with me. I mean, I'm sure I did at the deepest part of my soul, and God is nothing like that. No, no, no. I mean, wouldn't you say that's impacted you really strongly by renewing your mind with who God is and what he says about who you are, that that has helped a lot.

Speaker 2: 29:53

Oh, it's changed everything for me. Yeah, my whole relationship with the Lord has changed and I thought it was really good before, but it's been amazing just to renew my mind really almost every single day about who God is.

Speaker 2: 30:09

That is the one tool that I use almost every single day is God you are, or I believe you are. What you just said, too, reminded me. It just came up my dad. I wanted to please my dad and he was kind and gentle and a good listener, also kind of a doormat, when my mom was a little passive. Maybe he was passive, but when every, every so often it wasn't like all the time, so when it happened it was a big deal for me. He would say my name a certain way and sometimes my husband makes a joke about this and he'll say my name that way and I kind of respond like, oh, you know, what did I do?

Speaker 2: 30:56

That, I think, is my example in my life, cause he would say, christina, like in this way, like I can't believe you did that, christina, and I remember just feeling like, oh my gosh, I disappointed my dad, now my mom, whatever we fought all the time, it was not a big deal, but my dad, when I disappointed him, I just wanted to curl up in a ball in a little corner and just never come out again. I felt so bad and there was a distance between us. You know, it felt like there was the silence between us. Something was somehow broken between us in that moment, and so I'm just realizing this now. I think that that's probably where that belief came from for me, that God was saying to me, christina, in that way that made me feel like, oh, I'm a disappointment, I messed up, and kind of it's not just I messed up, it's this is who I am. I am a mess up, you know, I am disappointing.

Speaker 1: 32:06

Yeah, I am that. Whatever it is, I did wrong.

Speaker 2: 32:09

Right.

Speaker 1: 32:10

Yes, and I'm so thankful that those things aren't true, that God is nothing like our fallible authority figures on this planet, nothing like them. You know, it's so interesting to me. We have people who have had difficult relationships with their dads and they in turn, now have a difficulty in relating to God as father. I am one of those people. I think God knew that he was picking something to identify himself as our father, that there are going to be many of us that we're going to have trouble with that.

Speaker 1: 32:43

And I think he did it so it could heal our relationships with our father If we got to know him as the tender loving you know there's no, no end to the depths that he would go to to reach us in love. He's fair, no expense. And I think when we see him as he is instead of how we think he might be because of our own experience with an earthly father, I think when we see him as he is instead of how we think he might be because of our own experience with an earthly father, I think it can be very healing, not just for our relationship with our heavenly father but also our earthly fathers. I mean, I do I just think that God knew what he was doing when he picked that image.

Speaker 2: 33:22

I think so too. And just so you know, I was the one. It was my brother and I. I was the mischievous one. My brother did what he was told, came home on time. I was the one sneaking in and out at two in the morning as a teenager. I was the one who was getting in trouble. It makes sense that I would transfer that to my relationship with the Lord. Oh, I'm in trouble, I'm in trouble, I'm always the one in trouble. My brother's the one that's kind of the good son and I'm the one that's causing all the problems. So I just love that by going to the word and really looking at this, looking at what the truth is, I can see absolutely for sure who God is and that his love for me is totally, completely solid and secure.

Speaker 1: 34:09

There's nothing I can do to push him away Right, so I just want to really quickly, for anybody who wants to jot these down, these are some of the verses that we looked at today Romans, chapter eight, verse 31 to 38. We spent some time there and then Ephesians chapter, chapter 2, verse 2 and following, I think we went through verse 6, and then romans 5, verse 8, and then we went back to ephesians 2, where we looked at verses 12 and 13, and colossians 3, 3. Oh my goodness, we were also in John 17.

Speaker 2: 34:52

And don't forget the book of Hosea yes, yes, and.

Speaker 1: 34:57

And so really, the best thing we can do if this is something we struggle with thinking that God turns away from me when I sin or when I overeat, or when I this or when I that is to dive into the scriptures. Take those scriptures that we just mentioned. But you can also go anywhere in God's word and jot down, you know, create a God list or add to your God list what is God like? What is he really like? Lord, show me, what are you really like and what do you do? How do you relate to people and then write down what he tells you and then praise him for being that way. That is a key part of this, I think, because we're basically confessing that we're aligning with what God says is true. And so, god you are. Why don't we wrap up our time with a little God you are Sure? I would love it. I would love it.

Speaker 2: 35:47

Okay, I would love it.

Speaker 1: 35:48

I would love it. Okay, I'll invite that in.

Speaker 2: 35:54

Yep, and then you start us off. Lord Jesus, please come into this time of mind renewal. We're going to do, god you are. Please give us your thoughts, as we praise you in Jesus name. Amen. God, you are the one who loves me with an everlasting love.

Speaker 1: 36:06

God, you are the one who draws me with cords of human kindness and binds me to yourself.

Speaker 2: 36:13

Oh, that's beautiful. God, you are my refuge, my hiding place my safety.

Speaker 1: 36:21

God, you are the one I was going to say, that I am safe with you know me inside and out and you love me.

Speaker 2: 36:29

God, you are the one that will never, ever turn away from me.

Speaker 1: 36:35

God, you are the one who called me from before the foundations of the earth to be holy and blameless in your sight. In love, you predestined me to be your adopted baby girl.

Speaker 2: 36:52

Yes, god, you are the one who calls me beloved and sings over me with loud singing.

Speaker 1: 37:00

Yes, god, you are the one who chose to demonstrate your love for me and that, while I was still sinning, you gave Jesus for me to bring me close.

Speaker 2: 37:14

Yes, wow, beautiful, beautiful, god. You are the one who knows me inside and out and loves me exactly as I am.

Speaker 1: 37:25

Yay, well, we could keep going. Of course. I hope, listener, you will keep going. Just stop the podcast and on you go. Yes, don't ever stop.

Speaker 2: 37:37

We're so glad that you've been here with us today and we would love to invite you to join us for our next podcast of Revelation Within. On that note, join us for our next podcast of Revelation Within. Thanks for being here. Bye for now.