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God’s Kindness Turns Hearts

Heidi Bylsma-Epperson and Christina Motley Season 2 Episode 36

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For years, we carried the heavy misunderstanding that repentance meant shame, guilt, and trying to punish ourselves into change. We even believed we could “hate ourselves into holiness,” but that never worked. Over time, God showed us the truth: repentance is not about condemnation—it’s about kindness and freedom. Romans 2:4 reminds us that it’s His kindness that draws us close, not fear or punishment. We’ve seen firsthand that when we turn back to Him, He runs to meet us like the father in the story of the prodigal son, arms wide open and full of compassion.

In this episode, we share how repentance looks in our own lives today. Christina opens up about her breast cancer journey and how God is inviting her to turn from fear toward His presence. Heidi reflects on letting go of her need to control everything and learning to rest in God’s love. Whatever your struggle—whether it’s food, health, or daily challenges—His invitation remains the same. 

Ready to reframe your understanding of repentance? Join our September theme "Turning Seasons, Turning Hearts" in our private community. The first month is free at revelationwithin.org. Together, let's discover how turning to God brings not condemnation, but the refreshment our souls desperately need.

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Speaker 1:

Hi and welcome to our podcast, revelation Within On the Go. I'm Heidi Biles-Maepperson, one of your hosts and the owner and lead coach of the RevelationWithinorg ministry, and I'm Christina Motley, your other host, also a Revelation Within coach and Heidi's partner in all things Revelation within.

Speaker 2:

We are so happy to invite you to join us today for this episode of Revelation within.

Speaker 1:

On the go. We're in sync for that one, that's okay.

Speaker 2:

That's okay. Our hearts are in sync. Our hearts are in sync for that one. That's okay. That's okay. Our hearts are in sync.

Speaker 1:

Our hearts are in sync, yes definitely yes, well, we are going to be sharing with you some thoughts that we have that kind of kick off our theme in our private community. So I think you'll see what we're talking about as we go on. But before we start, I kind of have a confession.

Speaker 2:

Oh, oh, my goodness, oh, we're all ears, heidi, everybody's leaning in.

Speaker 1:

Actually it is kind of vulnerable. So I feel like you and I, our ministry, needs to kind of be honest with everybody. Repentance it's something we've tiptoed around for 26 years really, and it's easier to talk about grace or joy or reward, but without repentance those things don't really have any, any meat to them.

Speaker 2:

There's no foundation.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's right, you're true, You're right. I can be honest with you. There was a ministry that was similar to Thin Within, when you know, back in 2001 or so, that used the word repentance a lot and it became a very abusive word.

Speaker 1:

And you know, the truth is, repentance isn't about shame at all. It's about freedom. But I know I was impacted by that um program and the way that it impacted me. To talk about repentance it was more fear of punishment if I ate too much, or something like that. And so we're going to talk about repentance, we're going to go ahead and break our silence. We're not going to hide from it anymore. In fact, in our community we're spending a whole month and it's not something that results in shame, it's not something that results in us feeling beaten down when it's spoken of biblically, and that's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1:

Yay, well, really at its heart. Repentance is about turning back to the God who loves us, away from counterfeit, comforts, counterfeit anything. And so today, we're going to tackle it head on. Comforts counterfeit anything. And so today, we're going to tackle it head on.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's long overdue, we know, okay, yeah, absolutely. I love that you shared that, heidi, and I mean those of you listening who have been walking with the Lord for a while, a long time, even a short time. You know what comes from repentance something so good, so sweet, so life-giving and, heidi, I love that we're doing this.

Speaker 2:

This repentance turning as the fall comes, as the leaves turn, and I love that we'll be able to do that for the month of September as we watch things turn in creation. I think it's just going to be the most beautiful, beautiful time. So thank you so much for setting this up for us. We are ready. I'm excited. I've I've told a couple people you know about it that I'm coaching, and they're just excited too. They're like oh, that sounds fantastic, so let's jump in with two feet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sounds good. You know, for the past few months our themes have focused on listening, resting in the Lord, being still with him, and then August's theme was basically a celebration of all God does. It's gratitude theme. And it's interesting because, as I was considering and praying about what September's theme would be and speaking with Joy Lynn, who's also a part of our Revelation Within team, she and I both landed on the same. You know, we're aware of God's goodness afresh because of gratitude and as we are aware of his goodness, to us it just seems like it's a great progression. It continues that rest theme, that peace in him and that celebratory gratitude. Thank you, god. And now it's like, oh, I'm left with me and standing before a holy God and he wants to encourage my heart, he wants to lift us up. Anyway, we're going to kind of launch out of, but from Romans 2, verse 4. So Romans, chapter 2, verse 4. And this is really the heart of repentance. Go ahead and read that phrase, christina, I would love to God's kindness is intended to lead you to repentance.

Speaker 2:

What is this really about? This is really about relationship. This is really about us and the Lord in those quiet moments when it's just the two of us. Like you said, heidi, it's a turning toward him and it's really him drawing us in closer to his own heart, and there's growth there and there's life there and there's change there and there's breaking of strongholds there and it's God's kindness that leads us. I love that. I love thinking of repentance as God leading me with kindness and inviting me. It's an invitation inviting me closer to him and to walk more closely with him, to him and to walk more closely with him.

Speaker 1:

It's not about groveling or or punishment, but it's about turning turning from what is fading, turning to what is eternal and, and even more than that, turning from what is not life-giving turning to what really is life-giving and that's, you know, what the Lord has in mind for us.

Speaker 1:

I just want to read that entire verse in context. Okay, great Romans 2, verse 4. Do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness is intended to lead you to repentance? Wow, I mean, when you look at the first part of that verse the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience.

Speaker 2:

Yes, wow, riches, riches, riches and that is intended to lead me to repentance.

Speaker 1:

Wow, riches, riches. And that is intended to lead me to repentance.

Speaker 2:

Right and I, if there are riches there and a closeness with the Lord that doesn't come in another way, I don't want to miss it. I don't want to miss one little tiny minute of that. I want to be right in there, close to the Lord and being vulnerable and honest and ready to turn. I just oh, I love, love it, and I feel like the timing is so good for us to do this after what we have talked about in our community for the last few months.

Speaker 1:

And in our podcasts too, from shame to shalom. Yes, and we have our class starting in September from shame to shalom, and we're going to plunge in for eight weeks as well.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

But you know, it's interesting because the whole idea of repentance has carried with it. For me, this head hanging down and I feel bad and it's almost like this morose thing and that's not biblical.

Speaker 2:

No, not at all.

Speaker 1:

Do you have any examples of how you felt that way?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, I mean, I felt that way for decades. I was especially with my issues with food and eating and body image. I mean I just thought shame must go with repentance, guilt and fear and all those awful things. Fear of punishment what about performance? I thought that was all wrapped in with repentance.

Speaker 2:

And I've talked about before the many, many stacks of journals that I filled up with shame and guilt and fear and just all of those things, and it didn't draw me closer to the Lord. It wasn't. It didn't bring life, it didn't bring anything new, it didn't help me to see what I could do differently. There wasn't change there. It was always the same, always the same. I knew that I was somehow off on this subject and here I had been a Christian since I was a little girl and Bible studies and church and reading all kinds of scripture. But I still knew something's off here because it didn't line up with who God is. You know, god is a God of change and life and always good for us, always working for us to grow, and so I didn't realize, I didn't understand that repentance is something beautiful and it leads to even more closeness with the Lord. Yeah, it's not about fear of punishment. It's not about performance and it's certainly not about shame.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. And I know, connected to all of that, the journals that we would write because I did that as well where you know, just pouring out, oh my gosh, I feel so bad, bad, bad bad bad. I thought I could hate myself into some sort of positive change. Okay, If I feel bad enough, if I really work myself into this awful lather, that maybe I would stop misbehaving.

Speaker 1:

maybe and I did, I would phrase it as misbehaving. Misbehaving, maybe, and I did, I would phrase it as misbehaving disobedience. And yeah, sometimes it is. But I could not hate myself in the positive change. It never once worked and really what that does is it shows me my thoughts about who God is and what he was like were misaligned. They weren't aligned with what is true. When I look at the word of God and what it says about what God is like and how God has chosen to reveal himself in scripture, I mean it's amazing all of the kindness and love and grace and mercy and long suffering, and I mean the list goes on and on.

Speaker 1:

Yes there are points where God is filled with wrath towards sin and evil. Yes, but he also has chosen us before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love, he predestined us to be adopted as his children. Yes, and that's what he attributes to us because of Christ, which is a beautiful place to be. Very, and that's what I want to remember.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's a. It's a place that leads to release, return and realignment. I love those re's.

Speaker 2:

Yes, me too. Yeah, it's no, I mean me too, heidi, all those years of trying to hate myself into positive change and I know so many of you listening can relate to that. It's very much, it's very common. It's something that many of us try to do for years and it doesn't get us anywhere. The change doesn't come, and we get so discouraged because we don't know what else to do, and so we just keep on in the same patterns.

Speaker 1:

We want to get out of that pattern. We want to see repentance for what it is from God's word Mm-hmm. And I really love our mind renewal tool look and learn is exactly that.

Speaker 1:

It is going to God and agreeing with him that this isn't what I want the looking part, this isn't what I wanted for my life and I know it's not what you wanted for my life. You don't want me to keep looking in all of these life sucking places for fulfillment or the answers or whatever it might be. You want me to do something different. So, bringing it to God that's the look part and agreeing with him and then asking him what would you have me learn from that misstep, that stumble, that sin?

Speaker 2:

as it were. What?

Speaker 1:

can I learn from that? And that's a very different question and a different approach. How can I beat myself up enough, which is not a God characteristic. How can I beat myself up enough that I'll stop it, that I'll just stop it.

Speaker 2:

Stop it Right, exactly Well. And it helps me so much to remember how God greets me every time. Every time I turn to him, his greeting is the same it's compassion, it's joy. It's joy, it's excitement. You know, it's patience and love and tenderness. He does not greet me with condemnation. There is no condemnation in Christ.

Speaker 1:

Romans 8, 1, right.

Speaker 2:

It helps me to think of it that way Romans 8, 1, right, it helps me to think of it that way. When I turn to him, when I'm running to him, he is greeting me with his love, and it's limitless love. It's not even love that we can imagine. It's love that goes on beyond the skies.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it just goes and goes, it does. It makes me think of the story in Luke, chapter 15, of the prodigal son. The prodigal son, as soon as he got himself up out of that pig pit and came running, and he did not clean himself up first, I am reasonably confident. When the father saw him coming, what did he do? Did he, you know, say no way, I'm not going to embrace this. At the very least, clean yourself up first.

Speaker 1:

No no, the father did something very undignified at the time. You know for those times and places and his stature in the, in the society he ran. Can you? Just picture that I pictured this older guy kind of hiking up his robe over his knee. Oh my gosh, what a wonderful greeting that must be. That is our God. That's an example. Jesus wanted us to see that as a picture of what God is like when we turn back to him. Yes.

Speaker 2:

Wow, wow, well, and there's so, so many examples of Jesus's interaction with people in the New Testament. That is like that.

Speaker 2:

You know. I just would encourage you, if you're not sure about this, if you're not sure how God greets, you, go into the New Testament and read those stories. How does he greet the people that turn to him? Yeah, always with love, always with compassion, like a best friend. You know, I think about that. Heidi and her husband are going to come and visit me in a little bit here and I'm so excited about that and I'm imagining Heidi and me just running. You know it's, and the way that we'll greet each other is just going to be awesome and I think about that with the Lord. He is our best friend. He is our heavenly, loving, tender father. He is like our closest brother and that's how he greets us.

Speaker 2:

I think about, you know, sometimes when my son comes home, my own son comes home and like his hair looks all crazy and like he needs a haircut and obviously he hasn't showered. Are you describing my son or your son? Both you know, and he's like, and he walks in with a huge tub of you know laundry and and it's like, how do I greet him? Do I say nope, shower and haircut first, get you know before you walk in the door, um, or you know, no more laundry or whatever. Yay, you're here. I mean I'm so excited to see him, I run toward him, I give him a big, huge hug. I want to hear all about everything Good, bad, ugly, all of it and I'm just so excited to be with him and that he has come to be with me. So I just I love that you brought up the prodigal son story.

Speaker 1:

That's such a great example.

Speaker 2:

Imagine that son. Imagine how dirty and stinky and probably long matted hair and just yuck. You know he must've been like in the worst condition. And there's his dad and all you know, all in his robes running running toward him. I love that picture so much. That is an accurate picture of who God is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, definitely. You know, I have really felt a lot of hesitations in bringing this up in our curriculum that we've written and classes we have had, and, um, because there is so much error that I have attributed to it Certainly I'll just confess that but that people who love the Lord have attributed to this idea of repentance. And you know, really, look at this verse in Acts 3, 19. It says again this is Acts 3, 19. Repent then, Okay, that's okay. Repent for the end of the world is near.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Repent then and turn to God. Yes, so that? Okay, what's the? So that Repent then and turn to God so that your sins may be wiped out. But that's not all. Your sins will be wiped out. I love that phrase Wiped out and it goes on. So repent then and turn to God so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh. Why would I say no, I'm not going to repent? Why would I say that I want my sins to be wiped out? I want refreshing that comes straight from the Lord.

Speaker 2:

Well, and when we look at this verse, there's, there's two parts that are ours, and then the rest is God's. So the first one is repent. So that's our turning. So that's really the same thing repenting and turning. That's our part, that's our only part, that's it. That's our part. After that, god does everything, god waits for us with compassion to turn, and then the rest is his. He's the one that wipes out our sins. We can't do that, we can't do that at all. And he's the one that brings times of refreshing. That's his part.

Speaker 2:

We just have that one part to turn. Turn to him, to go, go to him, turn to him. So I just love thinking of that. I don't have a whole list of things that I have to do and I I can't do them anyway. It's not my job, it's not my role. My job is to turn to God, and then he does the rest and he brings refreshment, and he brings all the good things. At that point, repentance is a gift of refreshment, not a heavy burden. Not at all, not at all.

Speaker 1:

What if we were to reframe our understanding of repentance so that it aligns with the verses that we've been speaking of Acts 319, that refreshment as that gift of refreshment? What if we were to just say, okay, Lord, maybe we need to repent of our view of repentance? I mean, Lord, I have had a view of repentance that has limited my participation in experiencing refreshment from you and participating in having my sins wiped out, you know, in an ongoing way. I mean, really, every day we have a chance to make bazillions of choices. Do I really want to claim that I am walking in total purity?

Speaker 2:

I don't think so, yeah, it's me too. No, there's just no way we we can't be perfect this side of heaven. So there's always something going on, there's always something to work on with him, there's always a change that's needed. That's part of the journey, and it's a vital part of the journey. We don't want to miss it. It's good, it's actually good.

Speaker 1:

Right. I mean when I think about the times that I've worked on some sort of a project, maybe a home improvement project or something. Working together, side by side with someone, forges a bond that is not forged any other way. I mean, I think of how, in the spring, my family and I, we would go out to our property. We had four acres and it was pretty much forest, but there was a lot of manzanita and that stuff's flammable and we want to be fire safe, and so together we would take out the weeds that had grown up in the whole property and we would take out some of the manzanita and cut off low branches from the pine trees and together we would do that. It's like we were working on something together and that brought us closer together.

Speaker 1:

And I think that's what God's inviting us to do with him is roll up our sleeves with him. He's side by side, shoulder to shoulder with us, and let's let's do some things that need doing, heidi. Let's do some things that are going to clear the way for what's next. I think that's a beautiful, a beautiful picture it is. It absolutely is. Our new theme in our community is turning seasons turning hearts and it's so wonderful this time of year.

Speaker 1:

Now where I live, we don't get turning as early as where Christina lives. The leaves don't turn here until at least October seems like, but I can anticipate that that's going to happen. But we wanted to use that picture because here, when we're entering fall, we see beauty as the colors change and shift and as things just. They grow differently, they look different, and that's what repentance does. It's a turning as well and that's a turning from something to something else, like the leaves are turning color. There's beauty in that change. There's beauty in that, as the trees are letting go of the leaves, it kind of is a picture of releasing what's no longer life-giving, and our hearts can turn as well and release the hold that we've had on things that aren't life-giving and we can experience renewal as well.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I grew up in Southern California, where fall is not really there and if it's there it's very confused, like there's one tree that you know changes color in November and there's another one in December, and it was not the kind of fall that you see in the old magazines and calendars.

Speaker 2:

I wanted to live somewhere that looked like fall in the fall, and so when we moved to Colorado I was so excited. We moved here in the summer before school started. I had a brand new teaching job in the fall and it was so exciting for me. I was like what's going to happen? What's going to happen? And of course we live at higher elevations, so that brought its own changes and its own personality, kind of. But what I realized after that first fall and over the years was that there's a pattern here where we live. There's certain trees that begin, there's certain shrubs and vines that kind of begin, and then there's a pattern and over the years I've been able to follow that pattern and I can anticipate it. So the very, very first thing that happens at the very beginning of August is that our trees out in front we have these big giant green leafy trees. One of them is an ash tree and in the beginning of August there are little tiny clumps of leaves maybe just three in this enormous tree that turn gold.

Speaker 1:

In August, early August.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and it's like it's really our first sign of fall and nothing else happens for a while and there aren't a lot of clumps, it's just a little. You have to really look for that change and I always get excited. It always happened when we were getting ready to go back to school and as a teacher, I was excited about the new year and getting the kids ready and everything, and that's always been the first change. And then there's other things that happen that are happening. Now we're almost in September and it's beautiful, but I love the pattern. There was only one year when the pattern was completely interrupted because our temperatures plummeted unusually early and all the fall leaves just dropped out of the trees onto the street and into the grass and it was over.

Speaker 2:

But that only happened once it was very unusual. Our normal is to have this wonderful pattern of release and renewal. And then, you know, I would talk with the kids when they were little, because they would say, mom, you know, everything died, it's, it's all dead. And I would say, no, no, no, it's not dead, it's sleeping. Yeah, it's a good, good thing that's happening. And then, of course, you know, what comes out of fall is winter and then spring again. So there's that beauty in the seasons and that pattern as well there.

Speaker 1:

Hosea 14, verses one and two, say return Israel to the Lord, your God. Your sins have been your downfall. Take words with you, which is an interesting thing to say.

Speaker 1:

We won't go into that right now. But it says take words with you in verse two and return to the Lord. Say to him forgive all our sins and receive us graciously, that we may offer the fruit of our lips. Wow, that's a compelling passage, and when you think of it in the context of the entire book of Hosea, which is a very heart-wrenching story on the one hand and beautiful love story on the other, it's really interesting. God is calling each of us at any point in time, at every point in time, to return Heidi to the Lord, your God. Return Christina. Return Barbara. Return Joy Lynn to the Lord, your God. Take words with you, joy Lynn to the Lord, your God. Yes, take words with you and return to the Lord, yes, and say to him forgive all our sins and receive us graciously. I love that, because they wouldn't ask that if God wasn't one who would receive them graciously. And God has recorded it for us in his eternal word.

Speaker 2:

So we know.

Speaker 1:

And so I would love you listener, won't you consider and reflect on what you might need to turn from right now? And what you need to turn to? I can tell you some of what we all need to turn to is a greater alignment with the Lord and a greater awareness of his presence. Oh, my goodness, I know in this season I need to turn from being so insistent on having my way. I want my way in everything I really do, and God is like let it go. Let it go and see if what I have for you doesn't fill that hole that you're trying to fill with stuff or attitudes or whatever that really are stumbling you, Heidi. So I love that because I know that as I turn to him, so I love that because I know that as I turn to him, I'm promised in his word that in Acts 319, that refreshing is going to come as I turn to him, my sins will be wiped out and I won't have the same kind of struggles that I've been having.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that invitation and, of course, I'm thinking about myself. As you're talking, heidi, you know what do I need to turn from in this season? And right away a word comes up for me. You know, I'm dealing with breast cancer in this season, which is just something that I never, ever, ever imagined that I would have to deal with. I'm kind of part of this thing now, you know, have to deal with. I'm kind of part of this thing now. You know that I've just I didn't knowingly walk into and I had a really sweet time with the Lord this week. That started out several days ago after a really, really difficult weekend physically. I was feeling discouraged and I was feeling like, lord, are you providing? Are you like? What's happening with you? Where are you? Um, how could you allow this? You know, why didn't you shelter me from it? Why didn't you take it away?

Speaker 1:

I don't have a problem with that at all.

Speaker 2:

No, and you know what?

Speaker 1:

I don't have a problem with that at all.

Speaker 2:

No, and you know what? It's very normal to say those kinds of things to the Lord. It's okay you, listening, might be dealing with something right now where you're thinking Lord, how could you have allowed this? And then the other one that comes up for me that I said to him is this is too hard, this is too hard, I can't do it. It's too hard. And once I was just very, very honest with the Lord. I had some private time with him, which he obviously set up for me because he knew that I needed that time with him.

Speaker 2:

And I let the tears fall and I, you know, was able to speak out loud to the Lord, which always helps me to kind of hear him and get my thoughts straight. Um, so I was able to do that and he, how did he greet me? He greeted me with compassion and I felt like his presence was so strong, right there with me, and so we talked about all the different ways that I needed to be provided for and my family. As I talked about that, each thing that I brought up, I would say but Lord this, but Lord this. But what about my husband? But what about money? But what about money? But what about this? I mean, I went kind of down an entire list and he had answers for me, he had provision for me.

Speaker 2:

Things came up in my mind that he has provided all along the way so far, and not just one, you know, not just one provision, for example, for my husband, but many provisions for him. And he showed me. He kept saying in my mind I heard him say again and again I provided for that, christina. I did provide for that. Look and see what I did. I provided for that this way and this way and this way. So, when it came down to it, what I was really dealing with after all of that was fear. That's what I was really dealing with, yeah, and the fear was big and ugly and overwhelming, and and he was right there. And so I said how will you provide for the fear, lord? And then he reminded me that he talks about fear more than 365 times in his word and he says do not fear, for I am with you. And so I felt like he was saying to me I am providing for your fear with myself, with my presence. My presence is with you constantly, christina.

Speaker 2:

So when I look at this season, when I think about what's happening, when I you know, when I become afraid, I want to turn away from fear. Fear is not from God. Afraid, I want to turn away from fear. Fear is not from God. He takes care of everything. He's not worried. He's not. He has a plan. I want to turn away from fear and I want to turn away from the lie that I can't do this, and I want to turn to everything that God has to offer me in this season his presence, his peace, his love. You know his faithfulness. And that's big. That's really, really, really big. This is big for me. This is so big and I do get scared, and that's okay too. It's okay to be scared, of course. But yeah, I just love the idea of using this season to respond to God's invitation to turn away from fear.

Speaker 1:

Amen, amen. You know, as you were talking, a verse popped into my mind, and it's one we use a lot Isaiah 30, 18. Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you. Therefore, he will rise up to show you compassion. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

The.

Speaker 1:

Lord's, the God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him and again that's Isaiah 30, 18.

Speaker 1:

Well, we're going to have to wrap up at this point, but we want to talk for a moment first about how you, how I, how we can begin an intentional turning away from whatever it is God may lay in our hearts to turn away from and turn to him as well. So practical ways to live repentance daily. It's not a bad word, it's refreshing. Yes, yeah. So the first way is an honest prayer Lord, I've been clinging to this, whatever it is, and name it. I really think it's helpful to name it and then say confess, I want to, I need to turn back to you and experience me instead. That's the first thing to do.

Speaker 2:

Honest prayer, that's the first thing. Honest prayer, absolutely. And then here's another idea scripture reflection, so journaling and praying through verses like Psalm 139, 23 through 24. There are so many, so many beautiful, beautiful verses that you could choose. Starting in the Psalms might be the perfect place for you.

Speaker 1:

Definitely, definitely. And the third thing and you know this, really it can't be understated If we were made in the image of God and God is triune, there's three get one community. We are also made in that image. We need people, we need others, and so community, and through community we can celebrate even confession and experience support. So really, those three things, an honest prayer. I've been clinging to this Lord. I want to turn to you. Second, scripture reflection, praying through journaling, through scripture, that is life giving. And thirdly, community and through that, confession and support. Those are the ways to live. That gets us started with living repentance daily. And it's not about shame. If you feel shame in this process, I want to urge you to to state I am not a child of shame, I am. It's not from the Lord, it's from the enemy, and to embrace Instead. I am the daughter of the King or I'm the son of the king and I belong to him.

Speaker 1:

He has attributed to me all value and worth and I will walk in that. Yes. And in Ezekiel 36, 26, he says I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you. I just love that. Oh, I love that he's always doing a new heart and put a new spirit in you.

Speaker 2:

I just love that. Oh, I love that. He's always doing a new thing, right? So I'm going to go ahead and pray. Lord Jesus, thank you for your kindness that leads us to turn back to you. Thank you for your patience and your mercy. Help us, jesus, to let go of what holds us back and turn our hearts fully to you in Jesus name.

Speaker 1:

Amen, amen. Yeah, we want to just be aware of the truth, and the truth is, repentance isn't about shame, it's actually about hope and relationship and refreshment. Yes, if you want to just plunge into a season of turning, a season of the turning of leaves, a turning of the heart, to join us during September, the first month is free. You can check it out at revelationwithinorg. Free, you can check it out at revelationwithinorg. But we have daily audios. They're like usually three minutes to six minutes long. There is a workbook that parallels those devotional audios and then, weekly, we have stepping stones of turning. Those are our gatherings once a week and it's Wednesdays at noon Pacific time. But we also record it and there's also going to be interaction, of course, in the community itself. So we get that support and we get that encouragement that we need to sustain a life of repentance, a life of obedience and repentance. Ooh, I said the obedience word.

Speaker 2:

That's another word that we'll want to reframe in the future.

Speaker 1:

Yes, definitely.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we are so glad that you've been here with us today and we sure hope that you'll come back and join us for our next episode of Revelation Women On Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, yeah, go Go. See you next time. Bye-bye for now. See you next time.

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